German wrack from Karsbach / Hinzendorf) Pommeren ( Hitted Feb. - March1945).

[KrisJG3]

Dears,

I need to know from which type of Bf-109 "?" was following information plate (from gearbox ???) as below:

Gerät-Nr.: 9-13005 C-7
Änderungen : 11
Werk Nr.: 11029
Herstelle: bm

where "bm"- probably mean:
bm - AEG-Allgemeine Elektrizitaets-Gesellschaft, Abeteilung Zaehlerfabrik, Berlin

This will be very important information because we going to inform WaSt about crashed BF109 "?" and found KIA pilot (probably from JG3 from airfield Pinnow - but not confirmed).

On the one of Russian forum I have found following information:

"...«Обычно» встречаемые варианты номеров редукторов VDM для DB 605 А-С это 9-13005 С или 9-13005 С-4. ..."
=
( ...<<usually>> we can meet following versions of numbers gearboxes VDM for
DB 605 А-С --> 9-13005 С or 9-13005 С-4 ... )

so I think it can help us at identyfication also type of main engine and by the way type of aircraft Bf 109 "?" ( seems to be version G or K ) but who of you know something more ? (there were: G-1 .... G-14, 14/AS , ... till K-4)

(Note: on the place was ammo: 13 mm and 20 mm)

I will be very luck if you try to help us (also for my collegues from team).


Best regards,

Kris aus Stettin/Szczecin Poland



PS- here is technical detail drawing for similar device but earlier versions:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c316/Kroat369/Einbau-Verstellgetriebe.jpg
see the left corner up - similar Gerät-Nr.

 

[KrisJG3]

Dears,

I have found following information:

Me 109G-1 through G-4: DB 605A-1

Me 109G-5/G-6: DB 605A-1, AM, AS, ASM, (ASB, ASC ?)

Me 109G-8: DB 605A-1, AM, (others ?)

Me 109G-14: DB 605A-1, AM, AS, ASM, (ASB, ASC ?)

Me 109G-10: DB 605D, (D-2 ?), DB, DC

Me 109K-4: DB 605DC, ASC (others ?).

Source:
The Luftwaffe page , Daimler-Benz DB 605

Is it possible agree type of Bf109 if we will get type of main engine conected with our gearbox with Gerät-Nr.: 9-13005 C-7 ???

Best regards,
Kris

 

[78587?]

with our gearbox with Gerät-Nr.: 9-13005 C-7 ???

this was the latest version of the "VDM-Verstellgetriebe" and it was used in late "AS" and "D" Engines.

 

[KrisJG3]

Thanks ---> Bf 109G-10: DB 605D,

Today I have found next plate:

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(probably: Gerät-Nr.: ........ 0
Werk Nr.: 490362
Hersteller: mcu
--------------------------------------------------------

mcu : Erla Maschinen Werke G.m.b.H, Flugzeugbau, Leipzig N 24, Wer 1, Heiterblick 17 d

So they produced:
Bf 109G-10/R6 <- mcu

Can you on base: Werk Nr.: 490362

check MIA pilot name ?

Some BF109-G10
was with similar Werk Nr.:


12/12/44 Gefr. Kurt Nickel
2./JG 3 Bf 109 G-10
(490759)
Black 13 Combat

and

1/01/45 Obgfr. Siegfried
Reuther
3./JG 3 Bf 109 G-10
(490674)
Yellow 1

Source: Missing In Action - JG 3


Fresh information :

Info. from my collegue - team " POMORZE1945":

45.03.03. 490362 100% I./JG 3

but who he was ? Pilot name = ?????

Source:
Akce 10. PRG nad

Thanks for support.


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Update 17.05.2012

Just now we have pilot name from BF109 G-10 with Werk # 490362, aircraft belong to:

Rabeler, Günther Uffz ; I/JG-3 (Reich Def Ost) Bf 109G-10 ; Werk # 490362 ; (lost 3/3/45) ; Fighter Operational Clasp ; MIA 3 March, 1945, cause and location not reported.

- he was from Staffel 2./JG (new) - (Stab I./JG3)

http://aircrewremembrancesociety.com...anPilotsR.html

Now only "DNA test" can confirm who was inside BF109 G-10 with Werk # 490362.

So this fighter was probably with engine: DB 605D

Technical data plate:
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=7358&d=1337193062
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=7359&d=1337193062
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=7360&d=1337193062

Here is last airfield of Bf 109 G-10 with WNr. 490362:
http://www.gorawino.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=311&Itemid=1

Best regards,
Kris

PS- please let me know how add picture of technical data plate from BF109 by panel of this forum.
(I dont know German language).