flightpics
Testpilot
Hat jemand eine Info wie lange die Phantoms noch fliegen werden? Ich kann leider nichts im I-Net finden. Danke.
Japan
Diskutiere Japan im Sonstige Streitkräfte Forum im Bereich Einsatz bei; Hat jemand eine Info wie lange die Phantoms noch fliegen werden? Ich kann leider nichts im I-Net finden. Danke.
Testpilot
Flying_Wings
Alien
Ein paar Jahre haben sie schon noch, solange es nicht genügend F-35 gibt, die deren Nachfolge übernehmen werden.
Wenn's aber ums Spotten und Fotografieren geht, dann gilt hier auch die gleiche Devise wie an anderen Flecken der Welt "umso früher, umso besser", denn mehr werden es nicht.
Dankenswerterweise hat die JASDF inzwischen ihre ganzen Maschinen in Hyakuri zusammengezogen:
Hyakuri (2015 war die 301 noch in Nyutabaru stationiert)
Allerdings gibt es anscheinend Planungen, eine Staffel wieder nach Misawa zu verlegen.
F_W
flightpics
Testpilot
Dank Dir für die Infos. Hab gerade auch Infos von einem Holländer bekommen der eine Woche in Hyakuri ist.
Dann muss ich wohl mal zur Kirschblüte nach Tokio
Dann muss ich wohl mal zur Kirschblüte nach Tokio
Flying_Wings
Alien
Schöne, aber auch wieder schlechte Reisezeit, denn da ist ganz Japan auf Achse.
Und was hat der Holländer gesagt? Die Info könntest du hier auch teilen.
Und was hat der Holländer gesagt? Die Info könntest du hier auch teilen.
flightpics
Testpilot
Andreas, er meinte nur dass sie nächstes Jahr noch fliegen werden. Also keine Geheimnisse.
Die Kirschblüte hat natürlich ihre Vor & Nachteile. Mt. Fuji am See und Kirschblüte, welch Fotomotiv
Die Kirschblüte hat natürlich ihre Vor & Nachteile. Mt. Fuji am See und Kirschblüte, welch Fotomotiv
hakö
Testpilot
Und Gedränge,da du nicht der einzige bist der dieses Motiv sucht. Arbeit im Ameisenhaufen.Andreas, er meinte nur dass sie nächstes Jahr noch fliegen werden. Also keine Geheimnisse.
Die Kirschblüte hat natürlich ihre Vor & Nachteile. Mt. Fuji am See und Kirschblüte, welch Fotomotiv
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Auch Japan steht wie auch D vor der Frage, wie weiter bezüglich eines Fighters der neuesten Generation. Nachtigall ich hör Dir trapsen ? (Deutschland, Frankreich, Japan ?)
Exclusive: Japan to delay multi-billion dollar fighter jet development - sources
Exclusive: Japan to delay multi-billion dollar fighter jet development - sources
Deino
Alien
Moderator
... und im Gegenzug was altes in irgendeinem China-Forum gefunden.
..... Bilder bei airliners.net (16.11.2017) ... A special 100th anniversary for JASDF Gifu Airbase.
Flying_Wings
Alien
Ich mag diesbezüglich ja vielleicht etwas vorbelastet sein, aber gegen eine Sonderbemalung ist ja nix einzuwenden. Und als Staffelabzeichen gibt es ja nicht nur den Woody Woodpecker, sondern auch einen Shogun oder Drachen. Und die Luftwaffe fliegt ebenfalls noch mit einer ordentlichen Anzahl an Runden pro Tag.
Und auch so ist der doch recht kleine Staat mit F-2, C-2 und X-2 ziemlich umtriebig, was die Luftfahrt betrifft.
Und auch so ist der doch recht kleine Staat mit F-2, C-2 und X-2 ziemlich umtriebig, was die Luftfahrt betrifft.
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X2 Flugerprobung soll im März 2018 abgeschlossen sein. Mal schauen wie es dann weiter geht.
Tokyo to conclude X-2 programme in March 2018
Tokyo to conclude X-2 programme in March 2018
doncorleone117
Astronaut
Paar interessante News
Some infos. for 2018.
<General>
1. Usually, the JASDF release their open house schedule at around 20th March every year.
2. Usually, the JGSDF release their open house schedule at early March, because they open their camps at the season of the cherry blossoms(early April).
3. Usually, the JMSDF release their open house schedule about 1-2 month before the event.
4. JASDF/JGSDF/JMSDF are "holiday" on Sat. and Sun. and the National holidays in Japan(Please check the holidays of this year).
There are no activities except routine maritime patrol, exercise, emergency and /or some special missions.
5. There are also No activities on these days;
1) The day of the local school examinations.
2) The day of the Flying Safety which is usually 1st. Jul..
3) The year-end and 1st week of the new year(usually, around 25 Dec to 6 Jan.)
4) "O-bon" period, usually around 12 Aug. to 16 Aug..
5) The next day of the airshow or the open house day, except the transportation flight.
6. There are quite less flight from the 3nd. week of March to the The 1st. week of April(around 15 March to 3-4 April).
The end of March marks the end of the financial year in Japan. They used up their budget for the year, and maybe busy to write up /finish their paper-works.
They are also busy for the first few days of April, because new finacial year starts 1 Apr. in Japan
This means a lot of "old" organaization close on 31 Mar. and establish "new" organization on 1 Apr.. There are a lot of personnel movements, and relative ceremonies at this season.
7. Please check the NOTAM at this site before you visit to the airbase;
https://aisjapan.mlit.go.jp/Login.do
You' ll be able to get the time schedule of the mass flight, para-drop, and aerobatic
flights etc., for the airshow training.
8. Step ladder regulations
Almost all the JASDF bases have made regulations for the step ladders at the airshow.
They are different from each airbases and changing year by year.
1) You CAN NOT bring it into the base : Iruma, Hamamatsu(2017) and Tsuiki.
2) You can bring it into the base, but prohibit to use during the airshow(especially B.I. show); Chiose, Hyakuri, Komatsu.(Komatsu makes "Step ladder area" during the show)
3) You can bring it into the base, but requested minimum use; Other JASDF base, JMSDF air base and JGSDF air fields.
<JASDF>
1. One fighter squadron usually has 3 training periods in one day from 0800am to 1700pm.
And they sometimes has "Night" training at the 4th period(1700pm or later).
2. Phantoms;
About 45 F-4EJkais at 301sqn.(Hyakuri), 302sqn.(Hyakuri) and ADTW(Gifu).
4 original F-4EJs are also flying at Gifu(TPC use).
8 RF-4Es and 5 RF-4EJs at 501sqn.(Hyakuri). 901,905 and 913 are now painted in blue.
Fy2018-end(Mar. 2019), 302 sqn. will move to Misawa and get F-35As. (No phantoms go to Misawa.)
FY2020-end(Mar. 2021), 501sqn. will change to a fighter sqn.. (F-15?), and 301 sqn. will convert to F-35A.
3. 6 F-2Bs which were washed by the Tsunami on 11 Mar. 2011 had repaired and fly again.
03-8103(7th) and 03-8104(8th) start flying at komaki(updated 22 Jul. 2017)
They repair 13 F-2Bs totally, so 5 F-2Bs are now under repairing at MHI Komaki.
4. 3rd. sqn.(f-2A/B, T-4) will change its home-base to Hyakuri in 2020.
5. Kawasaki C-2s;
XC-2 development program was finished on 27 Mar. 2017. So they are now "C-2".
Four C-2s(203-206) went to 403 sqn., Miho A.B..
207 made her F/F on 21 Dec., 2017. Further one more C-2 will fly in FY2017.
Two C-2s are remaining at Gifu.
08-1201 had replaced its fuselage(main body), because its strength is weaker than they planned.
08-1202 replaced its fuselage and modify to the ELINT version.
6. Kawasaki C-1s
Retired: 38-1003(16 Mar. 2016), 48-1005(04 Apr. 2012), 58-1008(date?), 58-1012(in FY2017), 68-1016(28 May. 2014),
68-1017(27 Jan. 2015) and 78-1022(11 May. 2015).
Crashed: 58-1009(19 Apr. 1983), 58-1010(18 Feb. 1986), 68-1015(19 Apr. 1983) and 88-1027(28 Jun.2000)
Modified: 28-1001(FTB), 78-1021(EC-1)
Only 3 C-1s are at 403sqn., Miho A.B..
7. No infos. for the "Senkyo(*)" by now.
* Senkyo : Shortend term of the "Sengi-Kyougikai" in Japanese, meaning "The ACM meet in JASDF".
8. TRDI's X-2(51-0001, former ATD-X(Advanced Technology Demonstrator)) finished all its test flights by 31 Oct., 2017.
They say it will be scrapped.
9. YS-11s:
There remain one YS-11FC, 2 EAs and some EBs in JASDF.
10. Two U-125A(027 and 028) are painted in dark blue and flying at Komatsu.
(It seems to be normal again in FY 2018)
11. JASDF will get 3 KC-46As and set them at Miho A.B. from 2020.
<JMSDF>
1. Kawasaki P-1s ;
5501 was modified to UP-1(Flying test bed) .
5502 was modified to the production type.
Delivery schedules are as follows;
FY2017(by Mar. 2018) 5513(start flying) and 5514.
FY2018(by Mar. 2019) 5515, 5516 and 5517.
2. VP-3, JMSDF Atsugi had converted to P-1 sqn..
3. The last US-1A(9090) made her last flight on 13 Dec., 2017.
4. EP-3s and UP-3Ds will change their home base from Iwakuni to Atsugi in this summer.
(not moved by 14 Dec., 2017)
5. UH-60Js of the JMSDF will be disband in near future.
The SDF will undertake organizational reform that integrate ground-based aerial search and rescue
functions into the ASDF, which are currently performed by both the MSDF and ASDF.
（Medium Term Defense Program (FY2014-FY2018)）
<JGSDF>
1. JGSDF will purchase some V-22 Osplays in the near future.
2. OH-1 stopped flying, because of some mechanical reason.
3. CH-47J(52917/ JG-2917) had converted to CH-47"JA" type.
Other 3 CH-47Js will convert to "JA" type.
<USN in Japan>
1. The CVW-5 usually leave Japan for its six month cruise in mid May and return late November.
2. They are switching their home base from Atsugi to Iwakuni.
VFA-115, VFA-195, VAQ-141 and VAW-125 had moved to Iwakuni in 2017.
VFA-27 and VFA-102 are still remain at NAF Atugi, but will move on May., 2018.
<USMC in Japan>
1. Fuji Heavy Industry started their maintenance service for MV-22s at Kisarazu (JGSDF Kisarazu) .
The 1st. MV-22 came on 31 Jan. and was hanger-in on 1 Feb., 2017.
Its hanger-out seems to be on April ore later.
<USAF in Japan>
1. CV-22 sqn. will be come to Yokota in US-FY2020.
Quelle: Scramble Messageboard • View topic - JAPAN Air Shows 2018
Some infos. for 2018.
<General>
1. Usually, the JASDF release their open house schedule at around 20th March every year.
2. Usually, the JGSDF release their open house schedule at early March, because they open their camps at the season of the cherry blossoms(early April).
3. Usually, the JMSDF release their open house schedule about 1-2 month before the event.
4. JASDF/JGSDF/JMSDF are "holiday" on Sat. and Sun. and the National holidays in Japan(Please check the holidays of this year).
There are no activities except routine maritime patrol, exercise, emergency and /or some special missions.
5. There are also No activities on these days;
1) The day of the local school examinations.
2) The day of the Flying Safety which is usually 1st. Jul..
3) The year-end and 1st week of the new year(usually, around 25 Dec to 6 Jan.)
4) "O-bon" period, usually around 12 Aug. to 16 Aug..
5) The next day of the airshow or the open house day, except the transportation flight.
6. There are quite less flight from the 3nd. week of March to the The 1st. week of April(around 15 March to 3-4 April).
The end of March marks the end of the financial year in Japan. They used up their budget for the year, and maybe busy to write up /finish their paper-works.
They are also busy for the first few days of April, because new finacial year starts 1 Apr. in Japan
This means a lot of "old" organaization close on 31 Mar. and establish "new" organization on 1 Apr.. There are a lot of personnel movements, and relative ceremonies at this season.
7. Please check the NOTAM at this site before you visit to the airbase;
https://aisjapan.mlit.go.jp/Login.do
You' ll be able to get the time schedule of the mass flight, para-drop, and aerobatic
flights etc., for the airshow training.
8. Step ladder regulations
Almost all the JASDF bases have made regulations for the step ladders at the airshow.
They are different from each airbases and changing year by year.
1) You CAN NOT bring it into the base : Iruma, Hamamatsu(2017) and Tsuiki.
2) You can bring it into the base, but prohibit to use during the airshow(especially B.I. show); Chiose, Hyakuri, Komatsu.(Komatsu makes "Step ladder area" during the show)
3) You can bring it into the base, but requested minimum use; Other JASDF base, JMSDF air base and JGSDF air fields.
<JASDF>
1. One fighter squadron usually has 3 training periods in one day from 0800am to 1700pm.
And they sometimes has "Night" training at the 4th period(1700pm or later).
2. Phantoms;
About 45 F-4EJkais at 301sqn.(Hyakuri), 302sqn.(Hyakuri) and ADTW(Gifu).
4 original F-4EJs are also flying at Gifu(TPC use).
8 RF-4Es and 5 RF-4EJs at 501sqn.(Hyakuri). 901,905 and 913 are now painted in blue.
Fy2018-end(Mar. 2019), 302 sqn. will move to Misawa and get F-35As. (No phantoms go to Misawa.)
FY2020-end(Mar. 2021), 501sqn. will change to a fighter sqn.. (F-15?), and 301 sqn. will convert to F-35A.
3. 6 F-2Bs which were washed by the Tsunami on 11 Mar. 2011 had repaired and fly again.
03-8103(7th) and 03-8104(8th) start flying at komaki(updated 22 Jul. 2017)
They repair 13 F-2Bs totally, so 5 F-2Bs are now under repairing at MHI Komaki.
4. 3rd. sqn.(f-2A/B, T-4) will change its home-base to Hyakuri in 2020.
5. Kawasaki C-2s;
XC-2 development program was finished on 27 Mar. 2017. So they are now "C-2".
Four C-2s(203-206) went to 403 sqn., Miho A.B..
207 made her F/F on 21 Dec., 2017. Further one more C-2 will fly in FY2017.
Two C-2s are remaining at Gifu.
08-1201 had replaced its fuselage(main body), because its strength is weaker than they planned.
08-1202 replaced its fuselage and modify to the ELINT version.
6. Kawasaki C-1s
Retired: 38-1003(16 Mar. 2016), 48-1005(04 Apr. 2012), 58-1008(date?), 58-1012(in FY2017), 68-1016(28 May. 2014),
68-1017(27 Jan. 2015) and 78-1022(11 May. 2015).
Crashed: 58-1009(19 Apr. 1983), 58-1010(18 Feb. 1986), 68-1015(19 Apr. 1983) and 88-1027(28 Jun.2000)
Modified: 28-1001(FTB), 78-1021(EC-1)
Only 3 C-1s are at 403sqn., Miho A.B..
7. No infos. for the "Senkyo(*)" by now.
* Senkyo : Shortend term of the "Sengi-Kyougikai" in Japanese, meaning "The ACM meet in JASDF".
8. TRDI's X-2(51-0001, former ATD-X(Advanced Technology Demonstrator)) finished all its test flights by 31 Oct., 2017.
They say it will be scrapped.
9. YS-11s:
There remain one YS-11FC, 2 EAs and some EBs in JASDF.
10. Two U-125A(027 and 028) are painted in dark blue and flying at Komatsu.
(It seems to be normal again in FY 2018)
11. JASDF will get 3 KC-46As and set them at Miho A.B. from 2020.
<JMSDF>
1. Kawasaki P-1s ;
5501 was modified to UP-1(Flying test bed) .
5502 was modified to the production type.
Delivery schedules are as follows;
FY2017(by Mar. 2018) 5513(start flying) and 5514.
FY2018(by Mar. 2019) 5515, 5516 and 5517.
2. VP-3, JMSDF Atsugi had converted to P-1 sqn..
3. The last US-1A(9090) made her last flight on 13 Dec., 2017.
4. EP-3s and UP-3Ds will change their home base from Iwakuni to Atsugi in this summer.
(not moved by 14 Dec., 2017)
5. UH-60Js of the JMSDF will be disband in near future.
The SDF will undertake organizational reform that integrate ground-based aerial search and rescue
functions into the ASDF, which are currently performed by both the MSDF and ASDF.
（Medium Term Defense Program (FY2014-FY2018)）
<JGSDF>
1. JGSDF will purchase some V-22 Osplays in the near future.
2. OH-1 stopped flying, because of some mechanical reason.
3. CH-47J(52917/ JG-2917) had converted to CH-47"JA" type.
Other 3 CH-47Js will convert to "JA" type.
<USN in Japan>
1. The CVW-5 usually leave Japan for its six month cruise in mid May and return late November.
2. They are switching their home base from Atsugi to Iwakuni.
VFA-115, VFA-195, VAQ-141 and VAW-125 had moved to Iwakuni in 2017.
VFA-27 and VFA-102 are still remain at NAF Atugi, but will move on May., 2018.
<USMC in Japan>
1. Fuji Heavy Industry started their maintenance service for MV-22s at Kisarazu (JGSDF Kisarazu) .
The 1st. MV-22 came on 31 Jan. and was hanger-in on 1 Feb., 2017.
Its hanger-out seems to be on April ore later.
<USAF in Japan>
1. CV-22 sqn. will be come to Yokota in US-FY2020.
Quelle: Scramble Messageboard • View topic - JAPAN Air Shows 2018
Edding321
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Schade, das könnte es schön gewesen sein zu den Ambitionen Japans einen eigen neuen Jet zu entwickeln.
Japan's Scraps Domestic Development of 5th Generation Stealth Fighter Jet
Wer weiß, vielleicht irgendwann Partner in der EF Nachfolge.
Japan's Scraps Domestic Development of 5th Generation Stealth Fighter Jet
Wer weiß, vielleicht irgendwann Partner in der EF Nachfolge.
LFeldTom
Astronaut
Die gleiche Quelle sagt heute, dass die Japanische Regierung diese Aussage bestreitet.
Japan Denies Scrapping 5th Generation Stealth Fighter Program
https://thediplomat.com/2018/03/japan-denies-scrapping-5th-generation-stealth-fighter-program/
Auch wenn die Uhren in Japan was Industrieförderung angeht anders ticken - und Japan China schon als intensive Bedrohung empfindet - so kann man die finanziellen Aspekte nicht einfach weg wischen. Japan wird sich früher oder später von diesem Klotz trennen müssen wenn man nicht andere wichtige Bereiche opfern will.
Sens
Alien
3rd Air Wing der JASDF: Japan baut erste F-35A-Staffel in Misawa auf
Es soll auch noch die F-35B beschafft werden.
IISS
Um Technologisch mitzuhalten reichen Experimentalflugzeuge zum Testen fortschrittlicher Stealth- Kampfflugzeugtechnologien, da die Amerikaner schon mit den Vorarbeiten für die 6. Generation beginnen.
Mitsubishi X-2 Shinshin - Wikipedia
Es soll auch noch die F-35B beschafft werden.
IISS
Um Technologisch mitzuhalten reichen Experimentalflugzeuge zum Testen fortschrittlicher Stealth- Kampfflugzeugtechnologien, da die Amerikaner schon mit den Vorarbeiten für die 6. Generation beginnen.
Mitsubishi X-2 Shinshin - Wikipedia
Rhönlerche
Alien
Hatten wir das schon? Die neuen Hubschrauber-Flugdeck-"Kreuzer" Japans sind "rein vorsorglich" nicht nur Osprey-tauglich, sondern auch für die F-35 ausgelegt, von den Aufzügen, Hitzeverträglichkeit und Hangarmaßen.
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Heiße japanische Träume! z.Z. wird es überlegt. Egal, es wird teuer werden, wenn man es umsetzen will.
Japan hätte das Geld dazu und auch Erfahrungen im Bereich Carrier Aviation.
Es gilt wie immer: abwarten und viel grünen Tee trinken!
Rhönlerche
Alien
Dass die Maße und die Ausstattung der "Kreuzer" dafür vorbereitet sind, ist eine Tatsache, kein Traum. Das ist ja gerade die Neuigkeit.
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LFeldTom
Astronaut
Rhönlerche
Alien
China-Propagandaseite ungleich Japan.
MSDF helicopter flattop Izumo designed as aircraft carrier：The Asahi Shimbun
MSDF helicopter flattop Izumo designed as aircraft carrier：The Asahi Shimbun
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