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Was ich mich eigentlich frage ist warum steht an den Maschinen von Typ "Saeqeh" eigentlich so verschnörkelt Air Force (und dann auch noch in englisch) drauf ?
Hier mal der Schriftzug in weiss auf der 001:
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Diesem Bild nach könnte man annehmen das es insgesamt drei dieser Maschinen gibt.
In der Mitte die 001 mit dem weissen Schriftzug, im Vordergund die 002 (?) auch erkennbar an den beiden Waffen, und eine dritte Maschine mit Doppelleitwerk (?) im Hintergrund
 
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hier nocheinmal beide Maschinen 001 und 002 gemeinsam. Erkennbar sind Unterscheide in der Farbgebung. Man beachte die unterschiedlichen Farben der Lufteinläufe.
 
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Nachdem es um die Proejekte in letzter Zeit doch wieder etwas ruhiger geworden ist, hat "tictac" im ACIG-Forum vor ein paar Tagen dieses neue Foto geposted ...

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Beim heutigen Absturz eines Jagdflugzeugs vom Typ F-5 in Iran sind beide Piloten ums Leben gekommen. Wie der iranische Fernsehsender Press TV berichtet, verunglückte die Maschine aus technischer Ursache bei Landeanflug auf dem Luftwaffenstützpunkt Omide in der südwestlichen Provinz Chuzestan. ....
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eine F-7 ist am 06.Juli in der Nähe der Omidiyeh Air Base abgestürzt, es wird technisches Versagen als Ursache vermutet ...

Tehran, 7 July: An Iranian F7 jet fighter which was on a training mission crashed in southwest Iran Sunday [6 July] afternoon.
According to the Public Relations Department of Iran's Army, the crash was due to technical failure and the jet fighter went down near Omidiyeh Air Base in Dezful, Khuzestan Province.

Originally published by Islamic Republic News Agency website, Tehran, in English 1431 7 Jul 08.

(c) 2008 BBC Monitoring Middle East. Provided by ProQuest Information and Learning. All rights Reserved.tracking
http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewiStockNews+articleid_2378885~title_Jet-Fighter-Crashes-in.html
 
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Kamov will Hubschrauber an Iran liefern

Der russische Hubschrauberhersteller Kamov hat den iranischen Markt im Visier.
"Wir hoffen noch in diesem Jahr einen Liefervertrag abzuschließen", sagte Kamov-Exekutivdirektor Roman Tschernyschow, ohne das Volumen der geplanten Lieferung zu nennen. Nach seinen Worten handelt es sich vor allem um Zivilhubschrauber.
Davor hatte der russische Flugzeugbauer Tupolew mit Iran bereits die Lieferung von mehr als 100 Passagierflugzeugen Tu-204 vereinbart.

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MAl wieder einen ganz interessanten Artikel bei ACIG gefunden, den selbst Tom lobt ...

http://writersviews.com/post/iran/iran-new-fighter-jet.html

Geht insgesamt recht lange über iranische Neu- und Eigenentwicklungen ... unter anderem um ein "sieht möglicherweise so aus" Konzept des inzwischen eingestellten Prejektes "Morgh Ashura" (auch als FB-44 mal bekannt gewesen)

Since early 1970's obscurity has been an essential component of the Iranian defense strategy, and the other being self sufficiency. The Iranian Air Force had already started building a supply chain management system in order to build some of the parts for the expensive weapons being purchased by the Shah. The Americans were surprised that any F14s could still fly by mid 1980s and believed that no F14 Tomcat can be flown since no parts were being provided to Iran after the Embassy hostage takeover and had assumed that Russians must have been involved in supporting Iran as it was incomprehensible that Iran could be reverse-engineering, manufacturing, and maintaining its fleet on its own.

Iran's military weapons development and production is not advanced by any means compared to what we all know of U.S. capabilities and its military industrial complex. But don't disregard Iran's capabilities as one that is only able to rebuild/reproduce 1950's designed aircrafts like that of Northrop F5A with cannibalization and two slanted tail fins, as Western media suggest. Or the other on the extreme opposite that compared it to an F18. In fact neither is true.

The most obvious error in their reporting is that the Iranian Azarakhsh and the Saegeh are actually based on 1970s upgraded F5E/F and not the 1950s designed F5A. This may not mean a lot to most people but to Aerospace and Aviation Designers and Engineers familiar with the differences between the two, it makes a lot of sense in terms of technology capability. If you have flown the two in combat, then there is no question that they are different aircrafts.

While many Western 'aviation experts' and reporters express their surprise for Iranian, supposedly, wasted efforts to copy the 'old' F5, they are seriously misunderstanding Iran's military strategy and its manifestation.

For those people that suggest the Iranian Air Force will not last more than a few minutes against the invincible U.S. Air Force or the Israelis, I would suggest that your thinking is not applicable.

Consider how a few hundred militia from Hezballah can hold the entire Israeli armed forces to a standstill. The Israelis were so desperate they targeted civilians, and not just Shia but also Sunnis, and Christians. While foolish people may regard Israeli bombings of civilian as a sign of strategic targeting of the enemy's support structure, this is far from reality - and the foolish ones do not understand tribal support philosophy. If you want to know the truth, ask Israelis in Tel Aviv. They would admit openly that the 2006 war was the first time in their history since 1948 that they lost a war and did not achieve their objectives at a great cost to their military. Israelis see war in a very strategic way rather than simply a display of power projection. They believe they lost their invisibility in the minds and hearts of muslims throughout the Middle East and beyond.

Mostly, Israelis regret the increase in confidence and experience that Hezballah has gained from the 2006 war. They take this very serious and know that no good will come out of the new dynamics as they must go back and face their enemy eventually, again, while it is getting stronger and bolder by the day. The 2006 war provides an insight into the potential future conflict between U.S./Israel and Iran and how the later is preparing for war.

Iran has spent a considerable share of its defense budget on its naval forces (which consist of both regular and Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps), believing that the Persian Gulf will be its front line in the event of a confrontation with the U.S. or Israel.

Iran appears to have a clear naval war-fighting doctrine that suits its revolutionary fervor, and has no doubt developed innovative, asymmetric naval warfare tactics that exploit its favorable geographic situation, build on its strengths, and targets the U.S. vulnerabilities in the Persian Gulf and elsewhere.

Pundits have long speculated on Iran's military weapons and their capabilities. Reports have been published by news agencies on a range of military equipment that Iran has supposedly purchased. If you believe these reports, then Iran has 250 Su30s, and 30+ Mig31s, and hundreds of other military weapons, of course if you believe all the nonsense.

Iran can now count on a new bread of Engineers. Sharif University is the same university that Newsweek regarded as one of the best universities in the world. In 2003, administrators at Stanford University's Electrical Engineering Department were startled when a group of Iranian students aced the notoriously difficult Ph.D. entrance exam, getting the highest scores ever in the schools history.

Iranian students who have developed an international reputation as science superstars, are now displaying their prowess in electrical, mechanical, aerospace and automation engineering. The best of the best end up working for Iranian Aircraft Industries, Malek Ashtar's Aeronautical Research Center and Iran’s Aerospace Organization and the various joint projects that are managed through the Ministry of Defense. The planning at this level (not interfered by clerics) is exceptional even compared to Western standards.

The Iranian zest for engineering problem-solving, their desire for self-sufficiency, and their motivation to demand respect from countries that labeled them as Axis of Evil is certainly evident with their newly displayed prototype. Few could have imagined that Iran could have had such an ambitious project.





Sketch of a possible design for Iranian stealth fighter jet



Although the new aircraft is probably far from seeing full scale manufacturing and production and most probably has many incomplete subsystems.

While speculation drives all the nonsense rumors in the Western media, the Iranian obscurity has achieved what Iranians have wanted for over a century - that is self-sufficiency and independence from foreign dependency. As more sanctions are placed on Iran, the more they will rise in developing capabilities, and ultimately, self reliance.

We all accept that advanced design concepts and R&D does not automatically result in a squadron of fighter jets. But no one can doubt the level of engineering that Iran's visionaries can dream. And dreams are becoming a reality.

Skeptics still point to the fact that Iranian manufacturing, planning, management, production, funding, and organization is like something from the medieval times and the Iranian leadership and its corrupt ruling party have project development skills that resemble clinical schizophrenia.

What is important is that despite all control obsessions of the clerics that is often bordering paranoia and delusionary ideas on management styles and organizational behavior, you would be surprised to see what Iranian military specialists have accomplished in overhauling projects, upgrades, and maintenance programs completely immune to the interference and limitless stupidity of those with power, at local and national levels.

That, as an observer, is the real strength of Iran - being able to function and grow with all that is working against it. And the only thing that foreign powers (or internal traitors) can do is to slow it down but never to a halt.
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Mal wieder was auch der Gerüchteküche ... oder eher vom Theheraner Modellbau-Club ?!!


Iran completes design phase of stealth aircraft
Tehran Times Political Desk

TEHRAN -- Iran has completed the design phase of its stealth aircraft, the commander of the Iranian Air Force announced here on Sunday.

Iranian military researchers are now working on building small prototypes of the aircraft, Brigadier General Hassan Shah-Safi told reporters in Tehran.

The preliminary stages will be finished in late March and then production will begin, he stated.

Iranian engineers have made a major breakthrough in designing stealth aircraft that are difficult to detect by radar.

Shah-Safi said that the Air Force has also tested a new air-to-air heat-seeking missile manufactured by the Iranian military.

The new missile, which has a range of 100 kilometers, will be mass-produced by the Ministry of Defense, he added


http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=187752

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Russland hat Iran fünf Transporthubschrauber vom Typ Mi-171 verkauft. Die beiden ersten Maschinen seien bereits geliefert worden, berichtete die Nachrichtenagentur Fars am Mittwoch. Sie sollen von der Organisation des Roten Halbmondes bei Rettungseinsätzen genutzt werden. Die restlichen Hubschrauber sollen bis April nach Iran geschickt werden.
Der Liefervertrag mit einem Wert von 45 Millionen Dollar war im Oktober 2007 geschlossen worden.
http://de.rian.ru/business/20090128/119851663.html
 
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Mal wieder was auch der Gerüchteküche ... oder eher vom Theheraner Modellbau-Club ?!!
... und noch hinzugefügt ...

IRIAF manufactures Iran’s first radar-evading fighter plane

Tehran, Jan 30, IRNA – Prototype of first Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force (IRIAF) radar evading fighter jet was test-flied here Friday, according to IRIAF Commander Brigadier General Pilot, Hassan Shahsafi.


According to Public Relations of the IRIAF, Brigadier General Shahsafi said after the successful test flight of the plane, “In line with Supreme Leader’s nomination of the current Iranian year as the Year for Innovations and Blossoming, we successfully passed the last stage of our first radar evading fighter jet, and are testing a new air-to-air missile to be mounted on it.”
He added, “After a few more tests the radar evading plane project would enter its mass production phase, which would be in early new Iranian year (beginning on March 20th, 2009).”

Shahsafi said that earlier last month the smaller scale model of the same radar evading plane was successfully test-flied, new on which was broadcasted then.

Focusing on the new Iranian made “thermal air-to-air missile”, which has also been tested, he said, “This is one of our thermal air-to-air missiles, fully designed and manufactured at IRIAF industries, whose test was completed at one of the military fields of the country.”
He added, “The thermal missile would be fired by a fighter plane and pursue the fired missile of another plane.”
The final range of the new air-to-air thermal missile is 100 kilometers, according to Brigadier General Shahsafi, that can be further improved for higher altitude flights.
The IRIAF Commander was asked about the measures adopted to deal with the new era wars, particularly after the US invasion against Iraq, and the probability of countering such situations.
He replied, “The air force is a rapid reaction force whose superiority greatly is in the focus of attention in the world today.”
Shahsafi said, “Our air force, due to the strategic importance of the Middle East, and particularly the Persian Gulf region, and our national interests in this region, as well as the West’s need to the existing energy resources here, has adopted an independent doctrine, in which self sufficiency and reliance on own capabilities are our top priorities, based on which we have to the best of our capabilities equipped both our attack and our defense sites with equivalents of world’s most advanced systems.”
Focusing on the present and future perspectives of the IRIAF, he said, “Today, we are capable of 120 sorties of flights at a short period, conducting unprecedented tests, carrying out innovative new missions with various planes, and flying long distances as far as 2,000 kilometers, which is proof for high combat readiness of the IRIAF, which is a necessity keeping in mind the very sensitive conditions we are at.”
He said that the entire productions and trainings of the air force are done inside the country today, based on high level scientific research work, whose result has been quite satisfactory, adding, “We have the Martyr Sattari Air Force University today, where the works of our young scientists and air force students are merged with the achievements of the other similar universities throughout Iran, and scientific model taking is practiced there quite successfully.”
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Mal unabhängig von allen politischen und ideellen Ansichten. Es ist bemerkenswert, wir gut diese Tomcat in Schuß ist:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Iran---Air/Grumman-F-14A-Tomcat/1476393/L/&width=1000&height=679&sok=&sort=&photo_nr=&prev_id=&next_id=

Das wäre doch mal eine Herausforderung für die Organisatoren der Airpower 09 oder Waddington...;)
Ja die Lackierung sieht gut aus,aber daraus auf den Gesamtzustand einer Maschine zu schließen halt ich für kaum möglich.Jedoch muss man anerkennen das die Tomcats immer noch fliegen.
 
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Das iranische Verteidigungsministerium hat seine neue Drohne als „wichtige Errungenschaft“ der Rüstungsindustrie bezeichnet. Die Drohne sei von einem militärischen Forschungsinstitut entwickelt worden und habe 1000 Kilometer Reichweite, teilte der stellvertretende Verteidigungsminister Ahmad Vahidi am Mittwoch mit. Vahidi wollte aber keine Einzelheiten nennen, meldete die Nachrichtenagentur Fars. ....
http://de.rian.ru/safety/20090218/120202444.html
 
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