N.H.71
Berufspilot
Hallo zusammen,
anbei Zitation zum Flugplatz Dresden-Klotzsche. Da der Platz nie beabsichtigt bombardiert wurde, gab es vielleicht keine Luftaufklärung - folglich keine Luftaufnahmen dazu.Das wird wohl nur die NARA beantworten können.
Was die Zerstörung / Beschädigungen von Me 410 angeht, könnte das stimmen (Siehe unter: remarks).
Zitat Anfang:
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Dresden-Klotzsche (GER) (51 07 40 N – 13 46 20 E)
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Luftwaffe Airfields 1935-45
General: airfield (Fliegerhorst) in Saxony 9 km N of Dresden city center and 1.2 km N of the town of Klotzsche.
History: construction began in July 1934 and the first flying unit moved in exactly a year later when Klotzsche was officially designated a Luftwaffe Fliegerhorstkommandantur on 11 July 1935. At the same time along the E boundary, Luftkriegsschule 1 with a total of 60 buildings was built and included school classrooms, admin offices, barracks, quarters, messes, etc., this opening on 16 April 1936. The airfield also served as a civil airport until April 1940. Klotzsche served as a major training field during the war and no combat units were based there until Feb 45.
Dimensions: approx. 1280 x 730 meters (1400 x 800 yards) and rectangular in shape.
Surface and Runways: grass surface on sandy sub-soil. No paved runway. Equipped with a beam approach system.
Fuel and Ammunition: refueling points were in front of the hangars at the NE corner and in front of the hangar at the SW corner. Underground bulk fuel storage was in woods off the NE boundary. A small ammunition dump was located off the NW boundary. Infrastructure: had 1 large flight hangar formerly used by civil aircraft at the SW corner, and 5 large flight hangars and 1 large repair hangar plus adjacent workshops on the NE boundary. The hangars and workshops on the NE boundary were used exclusively by Luftkriegsschule 1. The civil airport terminal and buildings were all at the SW corner and included station offices and restaurants. A branch rail like served the buildings on the NE side.
Dispersal: no organized dispersal facilities.
Defenses: unknown.
Remarks: the airfield was not intentional bombed by Allied aircraft during the war.
17 Apr 45: low-level attack by VIII Fighter Command P-51s – claimed 9 x Fw 190s, 6 x Me 410s, 4 x Ju 88s and 7 x unidentified aircraft destroyed, plus 6 x Fw 190s, 1 x Me 410, 1 x Ju 88 and 10 x unidentified aircraft damaged.
7 May 45: Soviet troops reached the outskirts of Dresden this date and entered the city the next day taking the airfield intact with only the telephone exchange and radio station having been demolished. Operational Units: Sanitäts-Flugbereitschaft 4 (Mar-Jun 41); 4. (F)/Aufkl.Gr. 121 (Dec 41 – Apr 42)?; Stab, II., III./SG 4 (Feb-Apr 45); III./TG 2 (Mar 45); I./KG 4 (Mar-Apr 45); 14.(Eis.)/KG 55 (Apr 45).
School Units: Kdo.d.Fliegerschule- u.FEA 3 (Apr 34 – Feb 37); Kdo.d.Fliegerschule- u.FEA 4 (Mar 37 – Feb 39); Höh.Fl.Ausb.Kdo. 4 (Mar 39 – Nov 41?); III.(Ausb.Abt.f.Ln.Helferinnen)/Luftgau-
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Nachr.Rgt. 3 (1942-43); III.(Funkmesswesen)/Ln.-Ausb.Rgt. 303 (c. Oct-Dec 42); Höh.Kdr.d.Luftkriegsschulen- u.Uffz.-Schulen (Jan 44 – Oct 44); Höh.Kdo.d.Luftkriegsschulen (Oct 44 – Apr 45); LKS Dresden- Klotzsche (Apr 36 – Jan 40); LKS 1 (Jan 40 – Apr 45); Luftflottennachrichtenschule 7 (Sep 44 – Apr 45).
Reserve Training & Replacement Units: III.(Ers.)/Luftgau-Nachr.Rgt. 4 (1940-42); II.(Ers.)/Luftgau-Nachr.Rgt. 3 (1942-44); Ln.-Ers.- u.Ausb.Rgt. 1 (c. Oct 43 – Feb 44); II./Ln.-Ers.-u.Ausb.Rgt. 1 (c. Mar 43 – Apr 45).
Station Commands: as Fl.H. Dresden-Klotzsche (to 1943); Fl.Pl.Kdo. A 40/IV (1942-44); Fl.H.Kdtr. A(o) 38/III (1944-45).
Station Units (on various dates – not complete): Luftgaustab z.b.V. Russland bei der Heeresgruppe Nord (Apr-May 41); Koflug 7/III; Luftzeuggruppe 4 (c. 1939-42); Luftzeuggruppe 3 (c. 1942-45); schw.Hei.Flak-Bttr. 221/IV (Jan 43 – c.Feb 44); 3./le.Flak-Abt. 727 (Nov-Dec 43); schw.Flak-Bttr. z.b.V. 5584 (Aug 44); II.(Ln.Bau)/Ln.- Rgt. 1 (Jul 38 – early 1940); 7./Ln.-Abt. 41 (Jul 41); Kw.Werkstatt-Kp. d.Lw. 103/IV (1944-45)?; Luftgaubereichswerkstatt (N) 1/III ( ? – 1945).
[Sources: AFHRA A5258 pp.575-77 (31 May 44); chronologies; BA- MA; NARA; PRO/NA; web site ww2.dk; web site fliegerhorste.de]
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Gruß,
Nils
anbei Zitation zum Flugplatz Dresden-Klotzsche. Da der Platz nie beabsichtigt bombardiert wurde, gab es vielleicht keine Luftaufklärung - folglich keine Luftaufnahmen dazu.Das wird wohl nur die NARA beantworten können.
Was die Zerstörung / Beschädigungen von Me 410 angeht, könnte das stimmen (Siehe unter: remarks).
Zitat Anfang:
[…]
Dresden-Klotzsche (GER) (51 07 40 N – 13 46 20 E)
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Luftwaffe Airfields 1935-45
General: airfield (Fliegerhorst) in Saxony 9 km N of Dresden city center and 1.2 km N of the town of Klotzsche.
History: construction began in July 1934 and the first flying unit moved in exactly a year later when Klotzsche was officially designated a Luftwaffe Fliegerhorstkommandantur on 11 July 1935. At the same time along the E boundary, Luftkriegsschule 1 with a total of 60 buildings was built and included school classrooms, admin offices, barracks, quarters, messes, etc., this opening on 16 April 1936. The airfield also served as a civil airport until April 1940. Klotzsche served as a major training field during the war and no combat units were based there until Feb 45.
Dimensions: approx. 1280 x 730 meters (1400 x 800 yards) and rectangular in shape.
Surface and Runways: grass surface on sandy sub-soil. No paved runway. Equipped with a beam approach system.
Fuel and Ammunition: refueling points were in front of the hangars at the NE corner and in front of the hangar at the SW corner. Underground bulk fuel storage was in woods off the NE boundary. A small ammunition dump was located off the NW boundary. Infrastructure: had 1 large flight hangar formerly used by civil aircraft at the SW corner, and 5 large flight hangars and 1 large repair hangar plus adjacent workshops on the NE boundary. The hangars and workshops on the NE boundary were used exclusively by Luftkriegsschule 1. The civil airport terminal and buildings were all at the SW corner and included station offices and restaurants. A branch rail like served the buildings on the NE side.
Dispersal: no organized dispersal facilities.
Defenses: unknown.
Remarks: the airfield was not intentional bombed by Allied aircraft during the war.
17 Apr 45: low-level attack by VIII Fighter Command P-51s – claimed 9 x Fw 190s, 6 x Me 410s, 4 x Ju 88s and 7 x unidentified aircraft destroyed, plus 6 x Fw 190s, 1 x Me 410, 1 x Ju 88 and 10 x unidentified aircraft damaged.
7 May 45: Soviet troops reached the outskirts of Dresden this date and entered the city the next day taking the airfield intact with only the telephone exchange and radio station having been demolished. Operational Units: Sanitäts-Flugbereitschaft 4 (Mar-Jun 41); 4. (F)/Aufkl.Gr. 121 (Dec 41 – Apr 42)?; Stab, II., III./SG 4 (Feb-Apr 45); III./TG 2 (Mar 45); I./KG 4 (Mar-Apr 45); 14.(Eis.)/KG 55 (Apr 45).
School Units: Kdo.d.Fliegerschule- u.FEA 3 (Apr 34 – Feb 37); Kdo.d.Fliegerschule- u.FEA 4 (Mar 37 – Feb 39); Höh.Fl.Ausb.Kdo. 4 (Mar 39 – Nov 41?); III.(Ausb.Abt.f.Ln.Helferinnen)/Luftgau-
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Nachr.Rgt. 3 (1942-43); III.(Funkmesswesen)/Ln.-Ausb.Rgt. 303 (c. Oct-Dec 42); Höh.Kdr.d.Luftkriegsschulen- u.Uffz.-Schulen (Jan 44 – Oct 44); Höh.Kdo.d.Luftkriegsschulen (Oct 44 – Apr 45); LKS Dresden- Klotzsche (Apr 36 – Jan 40); LKS 1 (Jan 40 – Apr 45); Luftflottennachrichtenschule 7 (Sep 44 – Apr 45).
Reserve Training & Replacement Units: III.(Ers.)/Luftgau-Nachr.Rgt. 4 (1940-42); II.(Ers.)/Luftgau-Nachr.Rgt. 3 (1942-44); Ln.-Ers.- u.Ausb.Rgt. 1 (c. Oct 43 – Feb 44); II./Ln.-Ers.-u.Ausb.Rgt. 1 (c. Mar 43 – Apr 45).
Station Commands: as Fl.H. Dresden-Klotzsche (to 1943); Fl.Pl.Kdo. A 40/IV (1942-44); Fl.H.Kdtr. A(o) 38/III (1944-45).
Station Units (on various dates – not complete): Luftgaustab z.b.V. Russland bei der Heeresgruppe Nord (Apr-May 41); Koflug 7/III; Luftzeuggruppe 4 (c. 1939-42); Luftzeuggruppe 3 (c. 1942-45); schw.Hei.Flak-Bttr. 221/IV (Jan 43 – c.Feb 44); 3./le.Flak-Abt. 727 (Nov-Dec 43); schw.Flak-Bttr. z.b.V. 5584 (Aug 44); II.(Ln.Bau)/Ln.- Rgt. 1 (Jul 38 – early 1940); 7./Ln.-Abt. 41 (Jul 41); Kw.Werkstatt-Kp. d.Lw. 103/IV (1944-45)?; Luftgaubereichswerkstatt (N) 1/III ( ? – 1945).
[Sources: AFHRA A5258 pp.575-77 (31 May 44); chronologies; BA- MA; NARA; PRO/NA; web site ww2.dk; web site fliegerhorste.de]
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Zitat Ende
Quelle:
ab Seite 140 ff.
Gruß,
Nils
Das sind dann also schonmal mindestens sieben Exemplare in Klotzsche (wo nie eine mit diesem Typ ausgestattete Einheit stationiert) war. Ein weiterer passender Puzzlestein. Wobei das natürlich auch einfach fehlerhafte IDs von den amerikanischen Piloten sein können. Aber trotzdem.
