F-104G Starfighter zapping search

[DACO Products]

Hello all

I'm writing this in English, and I hope this won't be a problem for this forum...

I'm about to finish my German (T)F-104G Starfighter decal project, and I'm looking for one last zapping to add on my decal sheet. See the image below

Can everyone have a look in their archieves to see if a better image of this zap can be found? I would like to add it, as I've noticed it on several aircraft, but this is the best picture I've got of it sofar (and it's still not usable for a redraw into a decal)...

Thanks already

Danny Coremans
daco@glo.be

PS: previews of the decal sheets (5 sheets in one set) can be seen on my website http://ultra.glo.be/daco through the link "what are we working on" in the upper left frame)

 

[Eugenia]

Hi Danny,

can you describe me where did you find it? Starboard, port side, nose/cockpit section,... ?

 

[DACO Products]

This one comes from AirDoc's "Lockheed F-104 Starfighter" part 1 (ADJP001): page 51 top picture. It's from 25+33, right side aft fuselage area.

But as shown below, it's also on 25+74.
The zap of the two rabbits on the air intake is already designed from another picture.

I'm not sure if it's only zapped on German Starfighters, but as long as I've got one picture, even if it's painted on another type of aircraft, I can redraw it without having to guess (or if anyone knows for which occasion it could have been painted, it would be a clue for me to start searching it that area)

Danny

 

[Luftpirat]

Hi Danny!

The zap on the rear fuselage stems from the Tactical Air Meet (TAM 82) held at Jever from 14 to 24 June, 1982. See this same photo on Hubert Peitzmeier’s splendid F-104 homepage.

As for the „rabbit zap“ on the intake: it is not clearly visible on the photo but seemingly a persiflage of a certain real squadron badge.

As for the real squadron badge, the story goes like this:
The two animals are actually mules, one with a grey and one with a brown fur. They depict the squadron mascots of the 1st squadron (1. Staffel) of the Jagdbombergeschwader 31 „Boelcke“. When the wing had its first gunnery deployment to Bandirma in 1958, two live mules named ‚Ay’ and ‚Günes’ (‚Sun’ and ‚Moon’) were presented to them as a gift by their Turkish hosts, and so it was decided to introduce them as mascots for the first squadron of the wing. This is what they still are today. But they are just occasionally applied to the squadron’s aircraft, not permanently like the wing’s badge.

Here is an F-104G depicting the regular squadron mules on its intake.

Groetjes
Olaf

 

[logo]

Hallo Luftpirat ,

gesucht wird das Zapping im Heckbereich .

Da ich 1982 (Jever) leider nicht in dem Pool war welche zum deutschen Starfighter Liegeplatz gefahren wurde , ist mir dieses Zap entgangen .

Auf der anderen Siete der Basis , wo ich stand und fotografierte konnte ich allerdings das Zap vom Triebwerseinlass auf einer Canadischen 104 festhalten .

Es sind eindeutig zwei (moppelnde Häschen) mit der Unterschrift TAM 82 . Es hat nichts mit "Sonne und Mond" vom Jabo 31 zu tun . Dieses Zap ist nach meiner Vorlage auch schon auf dem Decalbogen von Danny realisiert worden .

Übrigens waren die deutschen 104s vom Jabo 33 .

Nun wäre zu Wünschen , einen der Fotografen zu finden , welche auf der anderen Seite waren und die 104s detailierter fotografiert haben .


Gruß logo

 

[Luftpirat]

wenig "tam tam"...

Moin Jürgen,

tröste dich, ich war 1982 ebensowenig in dem Pool, der zu den deutschen F-104 gefahren wurde... ;) Darum ist der Bezug zum JaboG 31 wohl unzutreffend.

Wenn aber das 'zapping' der Kanadier genauso aussah wie das gesuchte, dann würde sich jemand über ein 'Stelldichein' freuen.

Die Veteranen vom TAM 82 sind scheinbar sehr zurück haltend, denn online is' da nich' viel von damals...

Gruß
:D