Gothaforce

[Mercur]

Gothaforce bietet jetzt auf seiner Seite jede Menge Aviattic-Decals an und
auch einige Pheon-Decals in 1/72 und 1/48 wer da noch etwas Bedarf hat.

 

[Umlaufmotor]

Das nächste Modell von Gothaforce, eine Fokker E.V/D.VIII, ist nun vorbestellbar.
Wiederum hochfeiner 3D-Resindruck, also von Machart und Qualität genauso wie das erste Gothaforce - Modell, die Fokker D.VII
So wie ich es gelesen und verstanden habe, soll bei der E.V/D.VIII die leicht wellige Sperrholzhaut auf der Unterseite der Tragfläche am Modell ebenfalls dargestellt werden - das wäre super in meinen Augen.

Gothaforce

Gothaforce is a producer of early aviation products centered around scale modelling, as well as a retailer of affiliated brands in early aviation.

www.gothaforce.com

 

[overcast]

Moin Bertl,

50 € für den Kit oder ist das ne Anzahlung? Ich habe noch einen MIR Bausatz hier allerdings mit einer Palette Zubehör zum Aufpimpern. Nur die DVIII Decalsätze von Rowan hatte ich mir leider nie gekauft.

Ich hätte erst gern gesehen Was der Kit beinhaltet. Die DVIII ist natürlich nicht vergleichbar mit eine DVII aber die kostet ja 250 €. War Das zuviel?

Bin gespannt und danke für die Info

....man sollte bis zu Ende lesen...

Die 50 € sind tatsächlich nur eine Anzahlung. 200 - 225 € für den Kit. Sorry Das ist dann wirklich Ripp Off. Dann doch lieber den MIR Kit mit einem Gaspatch Motor und PE Zubehör von Aviattic Das ich habe. Im Oktober gibts wieder den Black Friday bei Gaspatch.

Und noch habe ich WNW Kits bis unters Dach.

LG

Kai

 

[Umlaufmotor]

Ja, das ist verflucht viel Geld - dachte ich mir bei der Gothaforce D.VII auch als sie vorgestellt wurde.

Habe dann vor einiger Zeit Michi's D.VII während der Baufase in live gesehen und auch in den Händen gehalten.
Unabhängig von Michis hervorragender Bauqualität musste ich mir dann zähneknirschend eingestehen, dass das Gothaforce Modell wirklich unglaublich sauber und extrem fein gefertigt ist.
Die Wingnut Fokker D.VII Modelle kommen da nicht mehr mit bei dieser Qualität
Keine wackligen Fahrwerksbeine, oder "N"-Streben, welche grade noch so das Gewicht der oberen Fläche halten ....... Die Gothaforce D.VII ist einfach das bessere Modell, da beißt die Maus kein Faden ab ...... .
Und wenn man bedenkt, welche Summen mittlerweile für die Wingnut D.VII aufgerufen werden, dann würde sogar ich eher zur Gothaforce D.VII greifen wenn ich eine D.VII haben möchte.

Zurück zur Gothaforce Fokker E.V/D.VIII:
Wenn sie dort die Qulität der D.VII halten, oder gar verbessen, dann ist sie - dem, der das Modell haben möchte - sicherlich das viele Geld auch wert.

 

[overcast]

Na dann greif zu Bertl

 

[Umlaufmotor]

Vermutlich nicht, ich hab noch genügend Plastik im Regal liegen ....

 

[gothaforce]

@Kai no offense ... we believe everybody is entitled to an opinion ... and it's a free world. we can only kindly suggest that by judging something as a "rip-off" before one even had the opportunity to examine it firsthand, it is worth bearing in mind that you are in fact implicitly questioning the judgment of the many modelers who have already decided it represents good value to them. first impressions certainly do have their place ... informed opinions tend to carry more weight.

 

[overcast]

Christian sometimes you need to talk frankly. The Fokker DVII is a much larger plane and kit. Especially the engine which indeed is a very nice one and a great improvement compared to the WNW Daimler Mercedes one from 2009. 3D printing at that time was almost nonexisting, today it became widespread and the range if you design and print on your own is unlimited. The Fokker DVIII with an already ready made rotary engine from Gaspatch the 200 € to 225 € is a lot of money especially compared to the Fokker DVII or an Albatros DIII. You run the company so the price tag is yours. I might come back with your DIII but for sure won't pay 200 - 225 € for the DVIII. And don't forget there still is Lukgraph and CSM which offer excellent kits for less especially the excellent kits from CSM which are around 75 €. The niche for WW I 1:32 kits for sure is not as big as for WW II modellers. Furthermore Christian I know you back from Ebay Kleinanzeigen. Your sales were never moderate. Today WNW kits are offered in masses and prices dropped rapidly. I suppose we can close our little dispute and let others take over again.

So Good Luck with your future kits and sales and see you after 2 years again at the SMC.

Kai

 

[gothaforce]

@Kai, as far as I'm concerned, there is no dispute. As said, everybody is entitled to their opinions and decisions. You have yours, and that deserves respect, but so do those of others. The only point I wanted to make is that "It's too expensive for me" and "It's a rip-off" are two different statements. The latter, whether explicit or implicit, may pass judgment on those who may have reached different opinions. Just as "I prefer Brand X because of reasons Y and Z" and "Anyone who doesn't buy Brand X is making a mistake" are similarly different statements to take an inverse example. That's all there is to it. It's just a courtesy thing.

We do welcome opinions, the franker and more tangible, the better. Simple "wows" are always appreciated, but they don't tell us much. And if we can be of help, we do and try to inform, which is why we are happy to engage with the modelling community on various media. Opinions of people who have actually experienced a product naturally carry more weight. It’s why we've enabled a review feature on our website that give people the opportunity to share their experiences on products they actually bought and used. Every review, regardless of score, is published without moderation, because not doing so would be judgmental, not transparent and above all disrespectful to people who took the time and effort to share their opinion. The only exception we make is that it should not contain contain abusive language. We believe that authentic reviews, positive or negative, help fellow modellers make better-informed decisions, because we can say all we want, in the end the voice of the customer speaks the loudest and happily so.

And yes, now that you mention it, I do remember someone telling me you had stopped by. Normally having a good memory could be SMC or maybe some other show. Admittedly, it was quite busy back then! We'll be at SMC again this October, so looking forward to continuing the conversation in person when you pass by.

Thanks for taking the time to share your point of view, and maybe see you at SMC.